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ele kid · Nov 08, 2011, 09:49 AM // 09:49

hai there, i've used this setup doing most elite areas and vanquishes. I myself use a rit primary and left a spot open as optional for different environments. e.g. pain inverter, frozen soil, etc.

Is there anything that could be improved? I heard heroes do not use keystone optimally, if there is anything, please share!

p.s. i also noticed my AotL MM his energy gets low rather quickly.

Mouse at Large · Nov 08, 2011, 10:28 AM // 10:28

Not being a great build expert, the only comment I'd make is that in hex/condition heavy areas, it might be worth running Purge Signet on the Keystone Mes (tested in Bogroots HM).

Lil Leena · Nov 08, 2011, 11:07 AM // 11:07

If your AotL gets low on energy maybe switch out Putrid Bile for Signet of Lost Souls?

Looks good otherwise imo.

The Guildless · Nov 08, 2011, 01:44 PM // 13:44

Keystone works just fine for me - I bring four of them at all times. I don't think Power Drain is optimal for your Keystone though. I'd go for Signet of Lost Souls or Leech Signet (I actually run both on some of the mesmers) since it'll basically do the same job but trigger Keystone as well.

Maya Cerestiez · Nov 08, 2011, 02:02 PM // 14:02

Looks good and solid. I think I would switch SS for FoC or something and leave minion bomber for another mesmer (if you have mercenaries). Panic > Keystone but it's just a personal thing I guess.

Edit: I always bring EVAS for the initial ball. Helps a lot since I do not use minions. Esp on rit primary you can make it last long enough with spawning. Your ST has command 8 but no para skills =P

Venganza · Nov 08, 2011, 02:24 PM // 14:24

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Originally Posted by Maya Cerestiez

Edit: I always bring EVAS for the initial ball. Helps a lot since I do not use minions. Esp on rit primary you can make it last long enough with spawning.

Actually no, EVAS is dependent on Vanguard rank, it has nothing to do with spawning and it not affected by it.

Oh and builds look ok more or less.

ele kid · Nov 08, 2011, 02:25 PM // 14:25

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Not being a great build expert, the only comment I'd make is that in hex/condition heavy areas, it might be worth running Purge Signet on the Keystone Mes (tested in Bogroots HM).

My 2 hex eater signets do the job for me, but thanks for the suggestion.

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If your AotL gets low on energy maybe switch out Putrid Bile for Signet of Lost Souls?

might try that, will take away a lot of dealt damage i think

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I always bring EVAS for the initial ball. Helps a lot since I do not use minions

I usually go frontline as a sos to block foes in a ball so my mesmers finish everything off quite quickly leaving my eoe in the back (spirit range texmod ftw)

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Your ST has command 8 but no para skills =P

Crap, your right, before i used a different st hero with "Stand your Ground" and "Never Surrender"(which also works) but i thought this might be better for spiking

chullster · Nov 08, 2011, 02:28 PM // 14:28

I think you should drop the curses or channelling from your mm (prob curses due to slow cast times, and having curses on another hero), and put those spare points into the attribute you wanted to keep on him.

I'd keep putrid bile and add sig. of lost souls to your mm.

Reckless Haste is wasted in HM areas, as they have buffed IAS already. If you drop RH from that bar, might as well drop SS and swap in either a resto elite or SR elite, putting the freed up points into that attribute.

Agree with poster above about swapping power drain for leech signet on your keystone mes too.

Optional: Possibly drop the rez from your N/rt healer, and swap the other copies of FomF for Death Pact Signet.

Random Namos · Nov 08, 2011, 02:29 PM // 14:29

SS for making damage on attacks in groups
Keystone, Ineptitude to rupt attacking groups..

hmm?

ele kid · Nov 08, 2011, 02:50 PM // 14:50

small update with what i've changed so far. really appreciating the responses so far!

might try the death pact signets lateron

Ravenmaster · Nov 08, 2011, 04:29 PM // 16:29

Your AotL will still be at 0 energy in no time.

Consider going half MM/half prot and half curses/half restore on the icy nec.
(Icy won't do much in HM anyway because it doesn't ignore armor)

You can free up some space by dropping some rezzes, two should suffice.

ele kid · Nov 08, 2011, 04:42 PM // 16:42

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Icy won't do much in HM anyway because it doesn't ignore armor

what'd you suggest, resto elite?

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Consider going half MM/half prot

My ST comes in here, or wouldnt that be enough

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half curses/half restore on the icy nec.

feast of corruption? suppose i would be better keeping a curses or resto elite, since they'd have 12 pts

Maya Cerestiez · Nov 08, 2011, 05:30 PM // 17:30

Your ST might not be enough prot since the minions will eat it all very quickly.

FoC over Icy Veins. I sometimes bring some random resto elite on the N/Rt like Spirit Light Weapon or Preservation (last one doesn't work with minions).

Calista Blackblood · Nov 08, 2011, 05:38 PM // 17:38

Your bomber is far too busy,soo many resses on the team,a PoD that really doesn't add much,put MoP on that and dump Shadow of Fear tbh.

2sec cast time barbs on bar that you want focused on minions and death nova? Maybe rethink that too. No wonder it never has energy.
Masochism?

Icy Veins and HM don't mix.

Foul Feast when you have 2 copies of Mend body and soul?

Denar · Nov 08, 2011, 05:46 PM // 17:46

http://www.gwpvx.com/User

enardraw/sandbox#Ritualist <---What I use, except the MB uses AotL. Sometimes I just forget taking it and take an RoJ or dedicated commandagon (allowing the mesmers to spec more into inspiration and manage their energy better) instead cos they're too slow.

ele kid · Nov 08, 2011, 06:20 PM // 18:20

Alright. I think i got everything pretty good now, but im still struggling with the Bomber. Should i even bring it?

AndrewSX · Nov 08, 2011, 06:31 PM // 18:31

As primary Rit you can pump a overloading amount of bodies already, even w/o a MM....i think you can easily drop it, just remember to pull mobs in your spirits instead running in the ball hoping to see some minions eat dmg directed to your casters.

Maya Cerestiez · Nov 08, 2011, 06:42 PM // 18:42

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Originally Posted by ele kid

Alright. I think i got everything pretty good now, but im still struggling with the Bomber. Should i even bring it?

I would drop the bomber, rarely uses them nowadays. Panic/Esurge/Communing Spirits/Command Para are nice alternatives.

ele kid · Nov 08, 2011, 07:28 PM // 19:28

Already got a much better feeling about this one, just not sure about ghostmirror light and mesmer secondary on the ua

EDIT: I swapped ghostmirror on master of whispers for a 3rd death pact signet

Haggis of Doom · Nov 08, 2011, 08:04 PM // 20:04

You have way too much defense: ST, 2x resto, UA. That's half of your team wasted on defense, on top of all the Mesmer shutdown and spirit bodyblocking. If you're willing to let go of SoS from your own bar and try something new, a SoS/Resto build blows any N/Rt resto build out of the water.

Also, why ditch the Bomber for MoP? None of your heroes seem to have much free time, so even if they all had spears it wouldn't be that good. A Bomber doesn't only bring defense to the team, it bring good damage and some snare to boot.

Right now what I feel is that your team build lacks a focus, a dynamic on how it works. A lack of synergy, if you want.